the Truth will always out...

...at least that's what my Momma used to tell me.


And another Truth, ignorance of the law is NO EXCUSE!

There have been mothers who have fled with their children, because they are convinced in their hearts that it is wrong, even after being brainwashed all their lives, they still have a sense of right and wrong, what is wrong with these men?

The second story may explain that little conundrum...because they were the compliant ones...the rebels and questioners were booted out, which of course left more girls and women to pick for themselves!


It's pretty bad when you are raised in a cult, the truth is not welcome...


(CBS) Many of the men in the polygamist sect in Eldorado, Texas didn't know it is illegal to marry someone under 18, one of them tells Early Show co-anchor Maggie Rodriguez in an exclusive interview.
Rodriguez conducted the interview Sunday night with three men whose children were among more than 400 removed by authorities from the sect's compound in a raid earlier this month.
It was the first time since the raid that any male members of the sect spoke with a member of the media.
In the wide-ranging interview, Rodriguez asked, “After all this, can you see why society looks upon you and says, ‘A girl who's younger than 18 shouldn't be married and having sex?’ Has this forced you to reconsider?”
One of the men, who identified himself as Rulon (none of the three offered a last name) responded, "Yes, many of us perhaps were not even aware of such a law, but yes, we have been made very aware in the last two weeks and we do reconsider -- yes.” Rulon says he has six children, ranging in age from a year to nine.
And if that 9 yr. old is a girl...when she hits puberty, she's marriagable. I hope you start thinking as a father and not as a cult member!
All three said they would submit to DNA testing, as ordered by a Texas judge who wanted to help authorities determine who the parents of the children in custory are.
The reason that there hasn't been any reporting is possibly the amount of inbreeding that has taken place. Wonder if it could be considered incest as well as "child marriage"? Does that term "child marriage" sound familiar? It should, it is practiced by that geopolitical movement wrapped in the tattered rags of religion, better known as mohammadism! Lovely practices...all to have more children...
A man who gave his name as Edson and told Rodriguez he has four children, from almost four-years-old to 11, took issue with the view that youngsters are abused in the compound.
"I think they have a very false perception of the way we live because we're closed mouthed," Edson said. "They assume a lot of things that aren't there."
I don't know about that, after all, 16 yr. old girls with 1 or more children are pretty much a wake-up call that there is SOME KIND of abuse going on! Idiot!
Asked by Rodriguez if he was saying older men don't marry adolescent girls in the compound, Edson replied, "I didn't say that at all, but I think that people have a false concept of what our religion is all about. To say that they're sexually abused and that people here are -- they haven't found anything to my knowledge that proves that. ... But I think that, overall, they look at us as if we're immoral people and, in our own makeup, that is the very most important part of our religion, is to be morally clean. I have a hard time standing here being a criminal, when I had no idea that I'm a criminal. I've always strived to be an upright man and my children and my family, everyone that I know, love me and I love them."
Hard to face the fact that you are part and parcel of something ...uhmmmmm, unsavory?
If an adolescent had sex with an older man, should that be considered abuse?
Ruloln answered, "The state of Texas has defined it as that. I would simply say, if you had a teenage girl that chose to go that way, could you force her to do otherwise? No, you could not. We are not a people of force. We are people of free agency and peace. We do not teach our children to have sexual conduct before they are of age. We do not teach them that; we teach them the contrary."
Free agency, as long as you toe the party line! Look at the below article to see what happens to boys who don't parrot the cultic line...girls on the other hand are breeders, and there are many ways to "encourage" obedience! And a child or baby held hostage for good behavior...as in, "Do you want your baby, or shall we give them away?", can shackle a young girl with no where to go!
"But gentlemen," Rodriguez asked, "do you think that a teenage girl has the maturity to make that kind of decision, especially if she sees other girls doing it and maybe might believe that it's OK? Isn't it your responsibility to tell them no it's not OK?"

A mah who said his name is Jake and said he has a two-and-a-half-year-old child, responded, "You can tell your child, 'Go through the courts to do it right and proper."
After you have raised that child to be terrified of outsiders? And that to go outside is to go to Hell? Sure, Wilbur!
"So," Rodriguez followed-uop, "are you saying that, that's what you tell girls who are young and want to marry these older men?"
Splutter, splutter...got caught in your lies and beliefs...and you know that they are unacceptable to the majority of the world...
"Well, it's not my -- it's not my child. That's what I'll tell my children -- it's definitely -- after they're 18, it's their choice. If they want to go that route, they can."
Earlier, Jake said it's been very difficult not having his child with him. His voice cracking, he said, "I miss my child, my heart's broken. But, I know that we'll see him sometime soon, if we stay at it and be faithful."
I won't say that they don't love their children, and miss them(it's a messy and ugly situation, but the state of Texas DID NOT cause it! jeffers and crew did, may they pay for their illegal activity.)but their love is badly tainted!
The interview will be broadcast in two parts, Monday and Tuesday on The Early Show.
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"Lost Boys" Forced Out By Polygamist Sects
One Tells Maggie Rodriguez They're Seen As Competition To Older Men For Young Women

HOLLADAY, Utah, April 21, 2008

Brent Jeffs and Shannon Price on The Early Show Monday (CBS/EARLY SHOW)

Polygamist sects often turn out young boys because they're seen as competition for the women. Maggie Rodriguez speaks to one of these young men and the director of an organization that helps them.
That's the kicker, isn't it? More for me, me, me...and none for you, you and you!
One of the reasons that incest laws were formulated was to prevent this from happening! Because if the "breeders" are all concentrated in the hands of a few, sooner, rather than later, all the children will be so closely related "problems" WILL crop up. Higher rates of birth defects, Down's Syndrome and other brain developemental issues, higher rates of natal and prenatal deaths, concentrations of genetic disorders(diabetes and such like).
There are villages in Turkey where 1/4 of the children can't walk or talk...and the UK has reported extremely high rates of birth defects in children of "Asian" parents, better known as pakistani mohammadins...I'd suggest studying the pictures of the adults from YFZ ranch, tell me what you see.
(CBS) "Lost Boys" is the term given to young men who are forced to leave polygamist compounds at a very young age. Many say they're banished on pretexts, enabling older men in such sects to have less competition for younger women and wives.
Any excuse is a good excuse to these cultic types.
Most of the Lost Boys are between 13 and 21 when they're kicked out of compounds such as the one in Eldorado, Texas from which authorities removed more than 400 children and teens in a raid earlier this month.
I believe that this shows a real disregard for individuals, and a deliberate effort to be "so different" as to be dysfunctional in the world. You know, Jesus spoke of us being IN the world(which means we have to understand and function in it)not OF the world(meaning that we live our Christianity in the highways and byways of life; at work, school, neighborhoods, play...wherever!) You can't hide from the world, that's putting your light under a basket, totally useless AND liable to start a fire...
Any parent that allows their child(or forces their child)out for a minor offense shows me that they have little REAL love amongst them, they are ALL brainwashed...sounds like a cult to me!
The alleged wrongdoing cited by sect elders when Lost Boys are tossed include things such as watching a movie, playing football, or talking to a girl, Lost Boys say.

Among the many difficulties Lost Boys face is that they're raised to not trust the outside world. They're usually left with little education or life skills and must learn to live in a world about which they know little, while dealing with the deep psychological pain of being shunned by their families and believing they're beyond spiritual redemption.
I believe that compound should have been shut down for that kind of CHILD ABUSE! Basically they are throwing babies onto the street to survive!
I have NO SYMPATHY for the plight of these purveyors of this perversion!
One such Lost Boy is Brent Jeffs, nephew of controversial imprisoned polygamist leader Warren Jeffs.

Brent chatted withThe Early Show co-anchor Maggie Rodriguez Monday, along with Shannon Price, director of The Diversity Foundation, which helps Lost Boys, among others, housing them and helping to integrate them into society.

Brent told Rodriguez, "(The reason) most of these men, you know, just like me, who were tossed out is if we're not following every little single thing that they say and do, they just find little reasons to kick us out. And you know, merely for the big reason of, you know, we're competition for these older men to get these younger women. It's a sad story.
This happens in mohammadin lands also, does the term "suicide bomber" come to mind? Look at the age group used? And the rewards offered...
"They'll usually find something, you know, that you've done wrong. Some little thing, then they'll say, 'well, you need to leave town because you've done this wrong thing. And we don't believe that you need to stay in here with us."

" ... when they're kicked out, these boys, their dad, they're told to drop these boys off at the edge of town and just tell them, 'Good luck.' These boys have nowhere to go. They don't have brothers and sisters, you know, anybody to go to. So they rely on somebody like us (The Diversity Foundation, which Brent is working with), who can kind of help them figure out what they're doing in life. Otherwise, they're just lost and, you know, they end up making some bad decisions down the road. And it's just not a good situation. We definitely need to help them."
Casting off the young men can cause problems in the outside society...but then, that makes them, "Someone else's problem, as long as WE don't have to deal with it!" This makes the FDLS parasites in a way, leeches on society in general.
Praise be to G*D that there is a group that is stepping up to help!
Asked if young people in polygamist sects even know it's against the law for someone to marry and have sex with a girl younger than 18, Brent replied, "They don't even talk about it at all in the church. The thing they teach in there is, 'W hat we tell you to do is what you should do, and you should never, ever question what we tell you to do.' They don't say anything about underage marriages and you're being married to this girl that's definitely not of age to be married. They just don't teach that at all."
Pure cultic thinking, group speak and group think...
Price said services her group makes available to Lost Boys vary, "depending on the child and what their availability is of their family back in their community of origin. So most of them I think generally speaking, they're lacking in education, they're delayed in their maturity. So, we do a lot of life skills instruction to make sure that they can integrate into the larger society."
Another point about cults...